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STATE BOARD OF ADMINISTRATION
6 DIVISION OF BOND FINANCE
DEPARTMENT OF HIGHWAY SAFETY AND MOTOR VEHICLES
7 DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE
STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION
8 ADMINISTRATION COMMISSION
BOARD OF TRUSTEES, INTERNAL IMPROVEMENT TRUST FUND
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10 The above agencies came to be heard before
THE FLORIDA CABINET, Honorable Governor Chiles
11 presiding, in the Cabinet Meeting Room, LL-03,
The Capitol, Tallahassee, Florida, on Thursday,
12 December 4, 1997, commencing at approximately
9:40 a.m.
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17 LAURIE L. GILBERT
Registered Professional Reporter
18 Certified Court Reporter
Certified Realtime Reporter
19 Notary Public in and for
the State of Florida at Large
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100 SALEM COURT
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1 APPEARANCES:
2 Representing the Florida Cabinet:
3 LAWTON CHILES
Governor
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BOB CRAWFORD
5 Commissioner of Agriculture
6 BOB MILLIGAN
Comptroller
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SANDRA B. MORTHAM
8 Secretary of State
9 BOB BUTTERWORTH
Attorney General
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FRANK T. BROGAN
11 Commissioner of Education
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1 I N D E X
2 ITEM ACTION PAGE
3 STATE BOARD OF ADMINISTRATION:
(Presented by Tom Herndon,
4 Executive Director)
5 1 Approved 5
2 Approved 6
6 3 Approved 6
7 BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE
INTERNAL IMPROVEMENT
8 TRUST FUND:
(Presented by Virginia B. Wetherell,
9 Secretary)
10 1 Approved 7
2 Approved 7
11 3 Approved 7
4 Approved 8
12 5 Approved 8
6 Approved 8
13 7 Approved 8
8 Approved 9
14 9 Approved 9
10 Approved 9
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DIVISION OF BOND FINANCE:
16 (Presented by J. Ben Watkins, III,
Director)
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1 Approved 10
18 2 Approved 10
3 Approved 10
19 4 Approved 11
5 Approved 11
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DEPARTMENT OF HIGHWAY SAFETY AND MOTOR VEHICLES:
21 (Presented by Fred O. Dickinson, III,
Executive Director)
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1 Approved 12
23 2 Approved 12
3 Approved 13
24 4 Deferred 14
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DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE:
4 (Presented by L.H. Fuchs,
Executive Director)
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1 Approved 15
6 2 Approved 15
7 STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION:
(Presented by Robert L. Bedford, Ph.D.,
8 Deputy Commissioner)
9 1 Approved 16
2 Approved 16
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ADMINISTRATION COMMISSION:
11 (Presented by Robert B. Bradley, Ph.D.,
Secretary)
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1 Approved 22
13 2 Approved 22
3 Approved 23
14 4 Withdrawn 23
5 Approved 23
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1 P R O C E E D I N G S
2 (The agenda items commenced at 9:46 a.m.)
3 GOVERNOR CHILES: And now we'll go to the
4 State Board of Administration.
5 MR. HERNDON: Good morning.
6 Item number 1 on the agenda this morning is
7 approval of the minutes of the meeting held on
8 November 18th, 1997.
9 COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN: And I'll move those
10 minutes, Governor.
11 GOVERNOR CHILES: All right. The minutes
12 have been moved.
13 Is there a second?
14 COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN: You'll have to
15 second it.
16 GOVERNOR CHILES: Second.
17 Without objection, they're approved.
18 MR. HERNDON: Item number 2 is approval of
19 fiscal sufficiency for eleven million eight
20 hundred thousand dollar, State of Florida
21 Department of Management Services facilities
22 pool revenue bonds.
23 COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN: Move the item.
24 GOVERNOR CHILES: Moved and seconded?
25 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Second.
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1 Without objection, it's approved.
2 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Second.
3 MR. HERNDON: Item number 3 is the report
4 by the Executive Director for the investment
5 performance and fund balance analysis for the
6 month of October 1997.
7 COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN: I will move that
8 item.
9 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Nelson's not here.
10 GOVERNOR CHILES: Pardon me?
11 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: And Nelson's not
12 here, so you'll have to second it, I guess.
13 GOVERNOR CHILES: I second it.
14 Without objection, it's approved.
15 MR. HERNDON: That completes the agenda.
16 Thank you.
17 GOVERNOR CHILES: Thank you.
18 COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN: Good work, Tom.
19 GOVERNOR CHILES: Have a hard time getting
20 a second.
21 (The State Board of Administration Agenda
22 was concluded.)
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1 GOVERNOR CHILES: Board of Trustees of
2 Internal Improvement Fund.
3 We're going to just skip out of order here
4 for just a minute.
5 MS. WETHERELL: Item 1, minutes.
6 SECRETARY MORTHAM: Move approval.
7 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Second.
8 GOVERNOR CHILES: Moved and seconded.
9 Without objection, the minutes are
10 approved.
11 MS. WETHERELL: Item 2, two purchase
12 agreements and a waiver of survey.
13 SECRETARY MORTHAM: Move it.
14 COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN: Second.
15 GOVERNOR CHILES: Moved and seconded.
16 Without objection, it's approved.
17 MS. WETHERELL: Item 3, two option
18 agreements for Belle Meade CARL project.
19 SECRETARY MORTHAM: Move approval.
20 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Second.
21 GOVERNOR CHILES: Moved and seconded.
22 Without objection, that's approved.
23 MS. WETHERELL: Item 4, an option agreement
24 for Wekiva-Ocala Greenway CARL project.
25 SECRETARY MORTHAM: Move approval.
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1 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Second.
2 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Second.
3 GOVERNOR CHILES: Moved and seconded.
4 Without objection, that's approved.
5 MS. WETHERELL: Item 5, an option agreement
6 for Rookery Bay CARL project, and a waiver of
7 survey.
8 SECRETARY MORTHAM: Move approval.
9 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Second.
10 GOVERNOR CHILES: Moved and seconded.
11 Without objection, that's approved.
12 MS. WETHERELL: Item 6, an option agreement
13 for the Don Pedro Island Recreation and Parks
14 Addition.
15 SECRETARY MORTHAM: Move approval.
16 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Second.
17 GOVERNOR CHILES: Moved and seconded.
18 Without objection, that's approved.
19 MS. WETHERELL: Item 7, an option agreement
20 for Shell Island Recreation and Parks Addition.
21 SECRETARY MORTHAM: Move approval.
22 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Second.
23 COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN: Second.
24 GOVERNOR CHILES: Moved and seconded.
25 Without objection, that's approved.
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1 MS. WETHERELL: Item 8, a purchase
2 agreement for the Department of Agriculture.
3 SECRETARY MORTHAM: Move approval.
4 COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN: Second.
5 GOVERNOR CHILES: Moved and seconded.
6 Without objection, it's approved.
7 MS. WETHERELL: Item 9 is a purchase
8 agreement for FSU.
9 SECRETARY MORTHAM: Move approval.
10 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Second.
11 GOVERNOR CHILES: Moved and seconded.
12 Without objection, that's approved.
13 MS. WETHERELL: And Item 10 is a lease
14 modification.
15 SECRETARY MORTHAM: Move approval.
16 COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN: Second.
17 GOVERNOR CHILES: Moved and seconded.
18 Without objection, that's approved.
19 MS. WETHERELL: And that concludes our
20 agenda.
21 Thank you.
22 GOVERNOR CHILES: Thank you, ma'am.
23 MS. WETHERELL: Thank you.
24 (The Board of Trustees of the Internal
25 Improvement Trust Fund Agenda was concluded.)
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DIVISION OF BOND FINANCE
December 4, 1997
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1 GOVERNOR CHILES: Division of Bond Finance.
2 MR. WATKINS: Item 1 is approval of the
3 minutes of the November 18 meeting.
4 COMMISSIONER BROGAN: Move approval.
5 COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN: Second.
6 GOVERNOR CHILES: Moved and seconded.
7 Without objection, they're approved.
8 MR. WATKINS: Item 2 is a resolution
9 authorizing the issuance of up to 375 million
10 dollars for capital outlay bonds for education.
11 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Motion.
12 GOVERNOR CHILES: Motion and --
13 COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN: Second.
14 COMMISSIONER BROGAN: Second.
15 GOVERNOR CHILES: -- seconded.
16 Without objection, it's approved.
17 MR. WATKINS: Item 3 is a resolution
18 authorizing the competitive sale of up to
19 11.8 million dollars of facilities pools revenue
20 bonds for Department of Management Services.
21 COMMISSIONER BROGAN: Move approval.
22 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Second.
23 GOVERNOR CHILES: Moved and seconded.
24 Without objection, it's approved.
25 MR. WATKINS: Item number 4 is a resolution
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1 authorizing the issuance of up to 20.45 million
2 of University of Florida housing revenue bonds.
3 COMMISSIONER BROGAN: Move approval.
4 SECRETARY MORTHAM: Second.
5 GOVERNOR CHILES: Moved and seconded.
6 Without objection, it's approved.
7 MR. WATKINS: Item 5 is authorization to
8 distribute an RFP for the selection of bond
9 counsel for the Lottery Revenue Bond Program
10 recently passed at this special session.
11 COMMISSIONER BROGAN: Move approval.
12 COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN: And second.
13 GOVERNOR CHILES: Moved and seconded.
14 Without objection, that's approved.
15 MR. WATKINS: Thank you.
16 GOVERNOR CHILES: Thank you, sir.
17 (The Division of Bond Finance Agenda was
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DEPARTMENT OF HIGHWAY SAFETY/MOTOR VEHICLES
December 4, 1997
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1 GOVERNOR CHILES:
2 Department of Highway Safety.
3 MR. DICKINSON: Governor, Item 1 is
4 approval of the quarterly report for the period
5 ending September 1997.
6 COMMISSIONER BROGAN: Move the item.
7 COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN: Second.
8 GOVERNOR CHILES: Moved and seconded.
9 Without objection, it's approved.
10 MR. DICKINSON: Item 2 is a request to
11 contract for some computer programming to
12 take -- take us to that 2000 compliance
13 requirement.
14 COMMISSIONER BROGAN: Move approval.
15 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Second.
16 GOVERNOR CHILES: Moved and seconded.
17 Without objection, it's approved.
18 MR. DICKINSON: Item 3 is submission of the
19 new state -- the latest license plate, which is
20 the sea turtle plate.
21 These monies go to the Department of
22 Environmental Protection for sea turtle research
23 and recovery programs, and conservation programs
24 for the sea turtle.
25 COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN: Move approval.
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1 COMMISSIONER BROGAN: Second.
2 GOVERNOR CHILES: Moved and seconded.
3 Without objection, it's approved.
4 MR. DICKINSON: Item 4 is the consideration
5 of a request to establish a management review
6 team at the Department.
7 COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN: Governor, if I
8 could, please.
9 I'd like to recommend a preliminary
10 investigation be conducted, based on the
11 allegations that are contained in
12 Colonel Grimming's letter of resignation dated
13 14 November 1997.
14 This deferral action would enable
15 Colonel Grimming to provide evidence to support
16 his allegation.
17 I would further recommend that the
18 allegations be an adjunct to a current open
19 investigation pertaining to contract matters
20 that were addressed in that letter being
21 conducted by my office.
22 And I would ask that this item be deferred
23 until the February 24th Cabinet meeting, at
24 which time I will provide you with the results
25 of this preliminary investigation.
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1 SECRETARY MORTHAM: Second.
2 GOVERNOR CHILES: It's been moved and
3 seconded to defer.
4 Without objection, it's deferred.
5 MR. DICKINSON: Thank you.
6 COMMISSIONER BROGAN: Could we have --
7 could I make a comment?
8 I support that. I'm the one that
9 promulgated the letter regarding the management
10 review, and after hearing from some of the --
11 the General's staff, I'm very comfortable with
12 the approach that -- that he has recommended,
13 and the integrity of his shop, and will be
14 perfectly satisfied with that, and look forward
15 to the results.
16 So thank you, General.
17 Thanks, Governor.
18 (The Department of Highway Safety and Motor
19 Vehicles Agenda was concluded.)
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December 4, 1997
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1 GOVERNOR CHILES: All right. Department of
2 Revenue.
3 MR. FUCHS: Good morning. Item 1 is a
4 request for approval of the minutes of the
5 November 18th, 1997, meeting.
6 SECRETARY MORTHAM: Move approval.
7 COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN: Second.
8 COMMISSIONER BROGAN: Second.
9 GOVERNOR CHILES: Moved and seconded.
10 Without objection, they're approved.
11 MR. FUCHS: Item 2 is a request for
12 approval and authority to file with Secretary of
13 State proposed amendments to Rule Chapter 12B-4.
14 SECRETARY MORTHAM: Move approval.
15 COMMISSIONER BROGAN: Second.
16 GOVERNOR CHILES: Moved and --
17 COMMISSIONER BROGAN: Second, sir.
18 GOVERNOR CHILES: -- seconded.
19 Without objection, they're approved.
20 MR. FUCHS: Thank you.
21 GOVERNOR CHILES: Thank you, sir.
22 (The Department of Revenue Agenda was
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STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION
December 4, 1997
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1 GOVERNOR CHILES: State Board of Education.
2 DR. BEDFORD: Governor Chiles,
3 Commissioner Brogan, members of the State Board
4 of Education, good morning.
5 Item 1, authorization of the competitive
6 sale and delivery of not to exceed 375 million
7 dollars State of Florida Full Faith and Credit
8 Public Education Capital Outlay bonds, 1998
9 Series A.
10 COMMISSIONER BROGAN: Move approval.
11 COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN: Second.
12 GOVERNOR CHILES: Moved and seconded.
13 Without objection, it's approved.
14 DR. BEDFORD: Item 2, Federal Loan
15 Application Servicing Contract Amendment.
16 COMMISSIONER BROGAN: Move approval.
17 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Second.
18 GOVERNOR CHILES: Moved and seconded.
19 Without objection, that's approved.
20 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: And I just
21 have one quick question, if I can.
22 GOVERNOR CHILES: Yes, sir.
23 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Bob, this
24 means we must have -- we have pretty close to,
25 what, 900,000 outstanding loans for students in
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1 the state of Florida?
2 DR. BEDFORD: I have Noah Powers in the
3 audience that can come and address that with the
4 actual numbers.
5 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: I think real
6 quick it'd be interesting to know just how many
7 outstanding loans there are with the students in
8 Florida, how many we're getting each year. This
9 is really -- is a tremendous issue.
10 MR. POWERS: Thank you, sir.
11 For the period of the contract up through
12 November, we're looking at individual student
13 loans, not actually the number of students --
14 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Right.
15 MR. POWERS: -- but the individual loans
16 are about 789,000.
17 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: And you
18 anticipate how many more next year?
19 MR. POWERS: We anticipate probably 5 to
20 8 percent increase.
21 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: And that'd
22 be how much in numbers? It's early in the
23 morning so it's -- 100,000?
24 MR. POWERS: Around 800,000 --
25 COMMISSIONER BROGAN: It's part of the
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1 Sunshine State Standards I think.
2 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: I know that
3 a five-year contract that was established well
4 before you being there -- well before the
5 Commission being there -- usually in this
6 particular industry, the fine costs per unit are
7 going down.
8 When does this -- when does this particular
9 contract go out for bid again? Because I know
10 we're locked into it now, but I -- maybe we can
11 get a much better price when we go back out
12 again.
13 MR. POWERS: Yes, sir, we'll be looking at
14 that.
15 COMMISSIONER BROGAN: This is the last
16 year --
17 DR. BEDFORD: Well, we --
18 COMMISSIONER BROGAN: -- of the contract.
19 MR. POWERS: This is the last year, but
20 we're into a one-year extension -- or will be
21 into a one-year extension, and we'll be looking
22 at that.
23 COMMISSIONER BROGAN: And we'll have to do
24 another RFP, General, and put it all out again.
25 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: It's very
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1 interesting, Governor, and members of the
2 Cabinet, that we have almost -- very close to
3 almost one million outstanding loans for
4 Floridians going to college. And that really
5 is -- just shows how much money college is
6 costing.
7 And I know people that come to my office
8 with law degrees -- we hired one couple, the
9 husband and wife, who both of them together had
10 over $200,000 in loans. And you comment, well,
11 how can people even make it these days? I mean,
12 it's really -- it's really tough.
13 GOVERNOR CHILES: Yeah.
14 And it cuts two ways in a way, you know.
15 Why did they have to get $200,000? So sometimes
16 maybe these loans are kind of easy to get, or
17 you don't feel like you're ever going to have to
18 pay them back.
19 But the number I'd be more interested in is
20 where do we stand in arrearage now in the,
21 you know, uncollectable or late payments.
22 MR. POWERS: Actually, Governor, we're at
23 about a 10.1 percent default rate nationally,
24 which is much lower than most any of the large
25 states that have a large volume.
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1 GOVERNOR CHILES: Well, that's --
2 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Some weight,
3 Governor, I mean, I'm finding that with my
4 professionals in the office. And also, we'll
5 find with law enforcement also, that many people
6 who would like to choose public service may not
7 be able to do so because of the few thousand
8 dollars that the private industry will pay
9 more.
10 In some cases, if we can have somehow or
11 other -- pay some of those loans, or help pay
12 some of those loans, we may be in a much better
13 position in order to compete for some of the
14 better students that are graduating, whether it
15 be law, medicine, or any of the professions.
16 GOVERNOR CHILES: May well have to -- the
17 Legislature might want to have to look at some
18 of that.
19 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: We have a
20 lot of tobacco money there, maybe we can use
21 that tobacco money.
22 COMMISSIONER BROGAN: One of the things
23 that we do, as you know, as members of the
24 State Board, is use loan forgiveness in the
25 issue of critical teaching shortage areas is to
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1 draw people into those areas.
2 And that's a very attractive incentive to
3 people to get into some of those areas where we
4 have trouble drawing -- drawing teachers. It's
5 not up-front money, but it sure saves you on the
6 back end.
7 Some of you probably did the same thing as
8 I did, I took loans when I went to college.
9 Some of them took me ten years before I finally
10 paid them off. So it is a very attractive
11 incentive.
12 GOVERNOR CHILES: Thank you, sir.
13 MR. POWERS: Thank you.
14 DR. BEDFORD: Thank you.
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1 GOVERNOR CHILES:
2 Administration Commission.
3 DR. BRADLEY: Good morning.
4 Recommend approval of the minutes for the
5 meeting held November 18th, 1997.
6 SECRETARY MORTHAM: Move approval.
7 COMMISSIONER BROGAN: Second.
8 COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN: Second.
9 GOVERNOR CHILES: Moved and seconded.
10 Without objection, they're approved.
11 DR. BRADLEY: Item number 2, recommend
12 approval of the transfer of general revenue
13 appropriations for the Department of
14 Business and Professional Regulation, Agency of
15 Healthcare Administration.
16 SECRETARY MORTHAM: Move approval.
17 COMMISSIONER BROGAN: Second.
18 GOVERNOR CHILES: Moved and seconded.
19 Without objection, it's approved.
20 DR. BRADLEY: Item number 3, recommend
21 approval of Items A., B., and C. for the Justice
22 Administration Commission.
23 COMMISSIONER BROGAN: Governor, I'll move
24 Item 3 A., B., and C.
25 SECRETARY MORTHAM: Second.
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1 GOVERNOR CHILES: Item has been moved.
2 Without objection, it's approved.
3 DR. BRADLEY: Item number 4 is -- we
4 request withdrawal of the matter from the
5 December 4th, 1997, agenda, and reschedule for
6 the January 21st, 1998, agenda.
7 COMMISSIONER BROGAN: I'll move withdrawal.
8 SECRETARY MORTHAM: Second.
9 GOVERNOR CHILES: Moved and seconded.
10 Without objection, it's approved.
11 DR. BRADLEY: Item number 5, request
12 authorization to initiate rulemaking for
13 proposed Chapter 28-111, the FAC.
14 SECRETARY MORTHAM: Move authorization.
15 COMMISSIONER BROGAN: Second.
16 GOVERNOR CHILES: Moved and seconded.
17 Without objection, it's approved.
18 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: The
19 invocation took longer than the meeting.
20 (The Administration Commission Agenda was
21 concluded.)
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1 CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER
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4 STATE OF FLORIDA:
5 COUNTY OF LEON:
6 I, LAURIE L. GILBERT, do hereby certify that
7 the foregoing proceedings were taken before me at the
8 time and place therein designated; that my shorthand
9 notes were thereafter translated; and the foregoing
10 pages numbered 1 through 23 are a true and correct
11 record of the aforesaid proceedings.
12 I FURTHER CERTIFY that I am not a relative,
13 employee, attorney or counsel of any of the parties,
14 nor relative or employee of such attorney or counsel,
15 or financially interested in the foregoing action.
16 DATED THIS 11TH day of DECEMBER, 1997.
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100 Salem Court
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