T H E C A B I N E T
S T A T E O F F L O R I D A
Representing:
VOTE OF EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR
DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS' AFFAIRS
VOTE OF EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR
DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION
VOTE OF REAFFIRMATION OF CABINET
AGENCY EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS
DIVISION OF BOND FINANCE
DEPARTMENT OF HIGHWAY SAFETY AND MOTOR VEHICLES
DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE
STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION
ADMINISTRATION COMMISSION
MARINE FISHERIES COMMISSION
BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE
INTERNAL IMPROVEMENT TRUST FUND
The above votes and agencies came to be
heard before THE FLORIDA CABINET, Honorable
Governor Bush presiding, in the Cabinet Meeting Room,
LL-03, The Capitol, Tallahassee, Florida, on Tuesday,
January 26, 1999, commencing at approximately
9:35 a.m.
Reported by:
LAURIE L. GILBERT
Registered Professional Reporter
Certified Court Reporter
Certified Realtime Reporter
Registered Merit Reporter
Notary Public in and for
the State of Florida at Large
100 SALEM COURT
TALLAHASSEE, FLORIDA 32301
850/878-2221
APPEARANCES:
Representing the Florida Cabinet:
JEB BUSH
Governor
BOB CRAWFORD
Commissioner of Agriculture
BOB MILLIGAN
Comptroller
KATHERINE HARRIS
Secretary of State
BOB BUTTERWORTH
Attorney General
TOM GALLAGHER
Commissioner of Education
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I N D E X
ITEM ACTION PAGE
VOTE OF EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS' AFFAIRS:
Approved 7
VOTE OF EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION:
Approved 10
VOTE OF REAFFIRMATION OF CABINET AGENCY
EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS:
Tom Herndon Approved 13
Remaining
Agency Heads Approved 14
DIVISION OF BOND FINANCE:
(Presented by J. Ben Watkins, III,
Director)
1 Approved 17
2 Approved 17
3 Approved 18
4 Approved 19
DEPARTMENT OF HIGHWAY SAFETY AND MOTOR VEHICLES:
(Presented by Fred O. Dickinson, III,
Executive Director)
1 Approved 20
2 Approved 20
3 Approved 21
4 Approved 21
5 Approved 23
DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE:
(Presented by L.H. Fuchs,
Executive Director)
1 Approved 33
2 Approved 34
3 Approved 35
I N D E X
ITEM ACTION PAGE
STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION:
(Presented by Wayne V. Pierson,
Deputy Commissioner)
1 Approved --
2 Approved --
ADMINISTRATION COMMISSION:
(Presented by Donna Arduin,
Budget Director)
1 Approved 44
2 Approved 45
3 Approved 45
4 Approved 45
5 Approved 46
6 Approved 46
7 Approved 47
8 Approved 47
MARINE FISHERIES COMMISSION:
(Presented by Russell S. Nelson, Ph.D.,
Executive Director)
A Approved 50
B Approved 50
C Approved 51
D Approved 51
E Approved 52
I N D E X
ITEM ACTION PAGE
BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE
INTERNAL IMPROVEMENT
TRUST FUND:
(Presented Kirby B. Green, III,
Secretary)
1 Approved 53
Substitute 2 Approved 53
3 Approved 53
4 Approved 54
Substitute 5 Withdrawn 54
6 Approved 54
7 Approved 55
8 Approved 55
9 Approved 55
10 Approved 56
11 Approved 56
Substitute 12 Deferred 56
Substitute 13 Deferred 57
Substitute 14 Approved 58
Substitute 15 Withdrawn 59
CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER 61
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VOTE OF EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, DEPT. VETERANS' AFFAIRS6
January 26, 1999
1 P R O C E E D I N G S
2 (The agenda items commenced at 10:21 a.m.)
3 GOVERNOR BUSH: Thank you, Pastor.
4 First let me tell you that I'm pretty
5 excited to be here. And I'm going to ask
6 Commissioner Crawford or General Butterworth to
7 correct me if I mess up. This is brand new for
8 me. So when I do mess up, and I'm sure it'll
9 happen, just elbow me or something so we can
10 make sure I get it right.
11 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Well, so far
12 you're doing it right.
13 GOVERNOR BUSH: The first item on the
14 agenda is a -- is a vote for the Executive
15 Director of the Department of
16 Veterans' Affairs.
17 COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN: And I will move
18 approval of your appointment, Governor, of
19 Colonel Robin -- Lieutenant Colonel
20 Robin Higgins, as Executive Director of the
21 Department of Veterans' Affairs.
22 I must comment though, Lieutenant Colonel
23 Higgins is replacing Mr. Carlos Rainwater. And
24 I would like -- I would be remiss if I didn't
25 comment on the professional performance of
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January 26, 1999
1 Mr. Rainwater as he served as the head of the
2 Department of Veterans' Affairs.
3 He has served his country in combat, and he
4 served his country at the Federal level, and he
5 has served his state; and in every case,
6 Mr. Rainwater has done it professionally, and
7 as a real gentleman.
8 And I wish him well as he moves on into
9 whatever endeavors he's doing.
10 But with that said, I move the appointment
11 of Lieutenant Colonel Higgins.
12 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: And I'll --
13 GOVERNOR BUSH: Second?
14 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: -- second -- I'll
15 second that motion.
16 GOVERNOR BUSH: Any discussion?
17 All in favor, signify by saying aye.
18 THE CABINET: Aye.
19 GOVERNOR BUSH: All opposed.
20 Congratulations, Robin.
21 Would you like to give a few remarks,
22 please?
23 Excuse me, Colonel.
24 LIEUTENANT COLONEL HIGGINS: Thank you,
25 Governor, thank you members of the Cabinet. I
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January 26, 1999
1 appreciate this. I -- I will -- upon
2 confirmation by the Senate, I will serve
3 with -- with honor, with passion, and hopefully
4 always with -- with good judgment.
5 I know from my past experience how much
6 veterans can give, and how much talent they
7 have to give to their communities, and how much
8 we owe them.
9 And I intend to work very carefully with
10 those in the state, with the county veteran
11 service officers, with the veterans service
12 organizations, and with the other veterans
13 advocacy groups to see that we can improve the
14 lives of -- of the veterans, and -- and
15 everyone in the state of Florida.
16 And I appreciate your confidence in me.
17 Thank you.
18 GOVERNOR BUSH: Thank you, Colonel.
19 Any other comments?
20 No?
21 Congratulations.
22 LIEUTENANT COLONEL HIGGINS: Thank you.
23 GOVERNOR BUSH: Congratulations, Robin.
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1 GOVERNOR BUSH: The next item is a vote
2 for --
3 Yes.
4 COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN: Going to do a
5 picture.
6 (Discussion off the record.)
7 GOVERNOR BUSH: The next item is the
8 appointment of David Struhs as Secretary of the
9 Department of Environmental Protection.
10 Is there a motion?
11 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Governor, I'd like
12 to move that we do approve your recommendation
13 of David B. Struhs as Secretary of the
14 Department of Environmental Protection.
15 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Second.
16 SECRETARY HARRIS: I'll second.
17 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor?
18 THE CABINET: Aye.
19 GOVERNOR BUSH: All opposed.
20 David, do you want to give some remarks?
21 MR. STRUHS: Please.
22 Thank you very much for your vote of
23 confidence. And I, too, with confirmation of
24 the Senate, look forward to serving all of you
25 and serving the citizens of Florida.
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January 26, 1999
1 I've enjoyed meeting with each one of you
2 individually very much, and look forward to
3 working with all of you as a Cabinet.
4 We have some awesome responsibilities and
5 challenges that lie ahead, and I want to assure
6 you, and -- and everybody else in the state,
7 that I'm committed to bringing the very best
8 innovative thinking from around the country
9 when it comes to environmental protection to
10 Florida.
11 I bring all of my enthusiasm and all of my
12 energy. I believe in transparent and
13 responsive governance, and will bring the
14 highest ethical standards to the mission before
15 us.
16 I firmly believe, as you all know now, that
17 I think we can effect some changes that will
18 streamline rules and regulations to make our
19 Department more efficient, and at the same
20 time -- and it's important we recognize at the
21 same time, we can become even more effective at
22 protecting Florida's remarkable environment for
23 all the people who call this wonderful state
24 home.
25 Thank you very much.
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January 26, 1999
1 GOVERNOR BUSH: Thank you, David.
2 I thought David got off to a pretty good
3 start when he came down to visit. He's been
4 here five days, and he's been staying at a
5 State Park instead of a hotel downtown. So --
6 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: In a tent?
7 GOVERNOR BUSH: No. I think he may be in a
8 lodge. But I'm -- I'm -- I thank the Cabinet
9 for the input and the support of -- of these
10 two very fine nominees.
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REAFFIRMATION OF CABINET AGENCY EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR13
January 26, 1999
1 GOVERNOR BUSH: Do we have a motion on the
2 reaffirmation of Tom Herndon as
3 Executive Director of the State Board of
4 Administration?
5 COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN: Governor, I'll move
6 the reaff-- reaffirmation of Tom Herndon as the
7 head of the State Board of Administration.
8 GOVERNOR BUSH: I'll second the motion
9 since I don't think that Commissioner Nelson is
10 here.
11 So, General, all in favor.
12 COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN: Aye.
13 GOVERNOR BUSH: Aye.
14 That's democracy.
15 That is -- that's a done deal then.
16 Do we have a motion on the reaffirmation of
17 all the Agency heads?
18 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Make a
19 motion, Governor.
20 SECRETARY HARRIS: Yes. Governor, I'll
21 make that -- make that a motion.
22 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: I'll make it
23 a second then.
24 SECRETARY HARRIS: Governor, I move that --
25 Mr. Ben Watkins as Executive Director for the
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1 Division of Bond Finance; Mr. Fred Dickinson as
2 Executive Director of Department of
3 Highway Safety; Mr. Tim Moore as
4 Executive Director of Florida Department of
5 Law Enforcement; and Mr. Larry Fuchs as
6 Executive Director of Department of Revenue.
7 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: I'll second
8 that, Governor.
9 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor, say aye.
10 THE CABINET: Aye.
11 GOVERNOR BUSH: Moved and seconded.
12 Without objection, the motion is approved.
13 Congratulations to all of you, and look
14 forward to working with you.
15 Yeah, please.
16 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Governor,
17 thank you.
18 Commissioner Nelson could not be here
19 today. But for the record, he wants to -- to
20 state that he -- he is also fully in favor of
21 all of the appointments, and he would have
22 voted for Mr. Herndon if he was here on the one
23 vote that you entered, and the Comptroller did.
24 So he wants to go on record, and also in
25 favor of everybody who was appointed and
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1 reappointed today.
2 And also wish to congratulate you.
3 GOVERNOR BUSH: Very good.
4 Congratulations again to all of you.
5 The next Cabinet meeting will be
6 February 9th, 1999.
7 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Governor, could we
8 set a time for that?
9 GOVERNOR BUSH: Sure. How about
10 9:00 o'clock?
11 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Thank you.
12 9:00 a.m.
13 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Well,
14 Governor --
15 GOVERNOR BUSH: Is that all right with
16 everybody else?
17 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Well, the
18 turkey hunting, that's the reason why we
19 changed it to 9:30 --
20 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: The turkey hunt's
21 off. No more turkey hunting.
22 It's canceled.
23 GOVERNOR BUSH: Do you go turkey hunting?
24 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: No, I don't.
25 GOVERNOR BUSH: I don't either. So --
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January 26, 1999
1 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: I don't
2 either. So I guess we can start at
3 9:00 o'clock.
4 GOVERNOR BUSH: We can start at 9:00 --
5 SECRETARY HARRIS: Well, I --
6 GOVERNOR BUSH: -- if that's all right with
7 everybody.
8 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Is Crawford going
9 to do any more turkey hunting, or he's taking
10 it --
11 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Well, the Secretary
12 and I go turkey hunting. But we'll -- we'll
13 get in early. Don't worry.
14 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Mondays and
15 Wednesdays you can --
16 (The Reaffirmation of Cabinet Agency
17 Executive Directors Agenda was concluded.)
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1 GOVERNOR BUSH: Item 1.
2 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Division of
3 Bond Finance.
4 GOVERNOR BUSH: The Division of
5 Bond Finance, yes.
6 MR. WATKINS: Good morning.
7 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: I'll move the
8 minutes, Governor.
9 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Second.
10 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor.
11 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Aye.
12 GOVERNOR BUSH: Very good.
13 MR. WATKINS: Item number 2 is a report of
14 award of 50 million eight hundred and
15 sixty-five thousand Board of Regents revenue
16 bonds. The bonds were sold at competitive sale
17 and awarded to the low bidder at a true
18 interest cost rate of 4.76 percent.
19 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Move Item 2.
20 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Second.
21 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor.
22 THE CABINET: Aye.
23 GOVERNOR BUSH: Okay.
24 MR. WATKINS: Item 3 is a report of award
25 of the -- on the competitive sale of
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1 two hundred and twenty-six million three
2 hundred and seventy-five thousand dollars of
3 PECO refunding bonds. The bonds were sold at
4 competitive sale and awarded to the low bidder
5 at a true interest cost rate of 4.78 percent,
6 resulting in gross debt service savings to the
7 State of approximately twenty-two million;
8 average annual debt service savings of
9 approximately $860,000; and present value
10 savings of approximately thirteen million
11 dollars.
12 GOVERNOR BUSH: Is there a motion?
13 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Motion for Item 3.
14 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Second.
15 COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN: Second.
16 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor.
17 THE CABINET: Aye.
18 MR. WATKINS: Item Number 4 is a report of
19 award on the competitive sale of ten million
20 dollars of Board of Regents parking facility
21 revenue bonds for a parking facility at the
22 University of Florida. Bonds were sold at
23 competitive sale and awarded to the low bidder
24 at an average true interest cost rate of
25 4.55 percent.
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1 COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN: Move it.
2 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in --
3 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Second.
4 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor.
5 THE CABINET: Aye.
6 GOVERNOR BUSH: Very good. Thank you.
7 MR. WATKINS: That's the agenda.
8 GOVERNOR BUSH: Department of
9 Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles.
10 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: While they're
11 coming up, Governor, I might mention that that
12 is some awesome, good interest rates that we
13 just got on those bonds.
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1 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Motion on the
2 minutes.
3 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Second.
4 COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN: Second.
5 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor.
6 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Aye.
7 MR. DICKINSON: Item 2, Governor, is
8 request approval for a rule on mobile home
9 tie-downs. These next -- both these items are
10 in -- result of the past storms. Our shop has
11 gotten with the industry and some other folks.
12 I think we got some good safety rules coming
13 forward here.
14 COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN: Move Item 2.
15 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Second.
16 GOVERNOR BUSH: Anybody.
17 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Second.
18 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Second.
19 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor.
20 THE CABINET: Aye.
21 MR. DICKINSON: Item 3 is the second part
22 of the same -- same rule.
23 GOVERNOR BUSH: Is there a motion?
24 COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN: Move Item 3.
25 GOVERNOR BUSH: Second.
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1 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Second.
2 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor?
3 THE CABINET: Aye.
4 MR. DICKINSON: Governor, Item 4 is
5 submission of our legislative package.
6 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Motion.
7 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Second.
8 GOVERNOR BUSH: Is there any discussion?
9 I went through this. This is lots of
10 stuff.
11 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: We're just
12 accepting it, I guess.
13 GOVERNOR BUSH: We're accepting? Very
14 good.
15 MR. DICKINSON: We -- we didn't have a
16 package last session, and so this is pretty
17 much two years of --
18 GOVERNOR BUSH: I was wondering --
19 MR. DICKINSON: -- housekeeping matters.
20 So hopefully next year, it'll be smaller.
21 Item 5 is submission of the Protect Wild
22 Dolphin tag. This -- this tag -- the money
23 goes for research and protection of the wild
24 dolphins. It's a culmination of --
25 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Which -- which
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1 number tag is this, now?
2 MR. DICKINSON: We're in the mid-forties
3 now. We've had -- we've got about two more to
4 come for this year. And I think we've had six
5 already have put their money in for next
6 session. So it's --
7 GOVERNOR BUSH: What percentage of license
8 tags are --
9 MR. DICKINSON: Actually it's a very small
10 percentage. It's less than 6 percent. But
11 there are quite a few tags out there. And what
12 we're trying to do -- this one, you can see, we
13 have worked on it to make sure it's a little
14 more legible.
15 Law enforcement's having a tough time on --
16 on some of these tags. And we tried to
17 brighten the -- the background and darken the
18 numbers so it's a little more legible.
19 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: And what's the --
20 what's the number one tag that people buy, the
21 specialty?
22 MR. DICKINSON: Well, Challenger is still
23 the number one. It's -- it's declining a
24 little bit.
25 But it's Challenger, manatee, and the
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1 panther are the top three. And then the
2 universities, Florida, Florida State are one
3 and two; and then the other universities
4 follow. But it's raised quite a bit of money
5 for scholarships on the university side.
6 Of course, your sports people now are fully
7 funded out of the tag program to the tune of
8 about a million-and-a-half a year. And,
9 of course, many other ventures throughout the
10 state.
11 So we're working with them. This is a $20
12 tag, and they go from 15 to $25, Governor.
13 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: I move Item 5.
14 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Second.
15 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Second.
16 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor.
17 THE CABINET: Aye.
18 GOVERNOR BUSH: Very good.
19 MR. DICKINSON: Thank you --
20 SECRETARY HARRIS: Governor --
21 MR. DICKINSON: -- Governor, if I might --
22 SECRETARY HARRIS: I just had a quick
23 question for Fred, Governor, if I may.
24 GOVERNOR BUSH: Please.
25 SECRETARY HARRIS: Could you give us a
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1 brief status report on the 800 megahertz
2 law enforcement radio system?
3 MR. DICKINSON: Yes, ma'am,
4 Madam Secretary. And thanks for asking,
5 because I will tell you that the 800 system in
6 our first two phases up the east coast has --
7 has worked famously.
8 This past summer we were down in the Keys,
9 and we were finally able to talk to the local
10 fire and rescue and the local police
11 department, which is the first time we've
12 really had the -- the interoperability of the
13 intercommunication that -- that the system was
14 designed for.
15 There are three phases remaining. We've
16 spent about a mill-- a hundred million dollars
17 so far. The projected cost is another two
18 hundred and forty million. It is an expensive
19 program. It's the best one that I think we
20 have found operating out there. We continually
21 look for -- for new and different technology.
22 We do have a contract through the spring of
23 2000 on this one.
24 And we -- Governor, I hope I'm not usurping
25 anything here, but we're trying desperately to
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1 get phase III funded. And I've talked to the
2 Governor about it, and -- and most of the
3 Cabinet.
4 The Legislature -- we do have enough money
5 in the bank, in the trust fund, which is
6 generated by a $1 renewal fee on all your tag
7 renewals. There's enough money in there to go
8 through one more phase.
9 At that point, we're going to have to
10 relook at -- at where we are money-wise. And
11 then we've got a continuing maintenance issue
12 that is also going to be forthcoming.
13 But this year, we're asking for some
14 support on phase III, which would take in the
15 west central Fort Myers to Tampa -- a little
16 north of Tampa; phase IV will be your Duval,
17 Lake City corridor; and then phase V is all the
18 panhandle.
19 The system becomes increasingly more
20 expensive with the more towers that are
21 necessary. And in this more rural area, more
22 towers are necessary.
23 But I will tell you that we have an
24 invitation to negotiate on the table as we
25 speak. There have been some interest expressed
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1 by some companies to come in, purchase the
2 current system, build out the remaining phases,
3 and then lease back to us.
4 I normally would feel a little skeptical
5 about that, but the discussions have been going
6 pretty well with these groups. And I believe
7 we've got the experts in place to make sure
8 that the operating agreements will render
9 law enforcement what they need in this program.
10 They want our tower space. They've asked
11 for the channels, and we've said not no, but no
12 way. But the -- the tower space is something
13 that we are looking at.
14 We have gone from building our own towers
15 in phase I, to leasing about three-quarters in
16 phase II. So the whole tower industry is
17 changing a bit, and hopefully we can ride that
18 crest.
19 That negotiation should be finished within
20 the first two to three weeks of session. So
21 we'd know if there's any funding that is
22 necessary for that negotiation that hopefully
23 we can get at this session.
24 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Question,
25 Governor --
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1 MR. DICKINSON: I think ideally that might
2 be something to -- worth looking at.
3 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: What Fred --
4 MR. DICKINSON: But we do have enough money
5 in the trust fund.
6 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: What Fred
7 has brought is very important is the tower
8 space. That tower is worth a lot of money for
9 us to rent out.
10 If, in fact, maybe looking at renting out
11 what we already own now, then we can probably
12 generate quite a bit of -- of revenue that
13 might end up helping you do your maintenance,
14 and such as that.
15 MR. DICKINSON: Yes, sir. That would be
16 included in the negotiation. Many of the
17 departments are looking at that currently.
18 Department of Transportation I think is ahead
19 of the rest of us a little bit. They've
20 already started leasing some of their land and
21 building towers. But it's -- towers is a big
22 business right now. And we're trying to
23 capitalize on it.
24 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: The amount
25 of money that I guess we are paying for tower
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1 rental, plus the counties and plus the cities,
2 and it's very unique. Let's take the downtown
3 Fort Lauderdale as an -- as an example.
4 It never really had much of a skyline, and
5 people started building 30-story buildings.
6 That had tremendous interference with the radio
7 signals of law enforcement and other emergency
8 services.
9 Whereupon then the building, which caused
10 the problem, then leases the space on top of
11 the building for a tower to be purchased or
12 rented by the State, the county, and the
13 locals.
14 And in one situation, I believe -- how much
15 per month do you even spend in Fort Lauderdale
16 on that one tower, 6,000 a month, or --
17 MR. DICKINSON: Easy.
18 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Easy.
19 I think it's, like, a quarter million dollars a
20 year that -- that local governments and the
21 State is paying just to lease tower space on
22 top of a building that caused a problem in the
23 first place.
24 So I think as we look at the emergency
25 radio system -- and what Fred has said is so
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1 important now, and have such a hard battle to
2 fight, and he's fought it now for the last
3 decade -- that in order to have local
4 law enforcement, local fire and rescue be able
5 to talk to State law enforcement and other
6 law enforcement, because for so many years it
7 was a turf battle, we want to have our own
8 dispatch station, we want to have our own
9 employees; we don't want to have you dispatch
10 for us or us dispatch for you.
11 But now I think this has been a tremendous,
12 tremendous success, and I wish to commend Fred
13 and his agency for taking a leadership role on
14 this.
15 GOVERNOR BUSH: Is this -- the towers that
16 we have put up already, it's been -- they're
17 not bonded. These are --
18 MR. DICKINSON: No, sir.
19 GOVERNOR BUSH: So you have an asset that
20 has no indebtedness on it.
21 MR. DICKINSON: That's correct.
22 These -- typically these towers run about a
23 million dollars a piece to build. And we
24 started with the most environmentally and
25 population sensitive area of the state, which
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1 are the Keys and Dade County. And that was our
2 test project.
3 Once we got going with that --
4 GOVERNOR BUSH: Yeah.
5 MR. DICKINSON: -- it's crept up the state.
6 And like I said, we're now leasing more.
7 And, incidentally, this summer we joined in an
8 agreement with three counties in phase III.
9 We're building half -- or basically about
10 40 percent of the sites, they're building the
11 other 60 percent. The local county has a
12 revenue stream now through the ticket
13 citations, uniform traffic citations. And
14 they're building up little pots of money for
15 their own radio systems.
16 And what the Legislature and the Cabinet
17 has done in the past is encouraged us to join
18 hands with them and partner up. We finally
19 were able to do that this summer.
20 And I think that's going to be the wave of
21 the future. Tallahassee, Pinellas County have
22 all invited us to join in their system. And
23 we're looking at -- if we can join towers with
24 them, it's -- it's a win-win for everyone.
25 So we're looking to try to do that with the
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1 locals.
2 GOVERNOR BUSH: Great.
3 Secretary, do you have any other comments?
4 SECRETARY HARRIS: Thank you, Governor.
5 MR. DICKINSON: Governor, thank you for the
6 reaffirmation, and look forward to working with
7 you and the Cabinet, as always.
8 And on this last issue, I think our former
9 Executive Director started this program with --
10 I think it started back in the -- in the early
11 '80s with this 800 megahertz. And --
12 GOVERNOR BUSH: Started that long ago?
13 MR. DICKINSON: That long ago.
14 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: A very
15 forward thinking Department of Highway Safety
16 and Motor Vehicles --
17 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: They used a
18 telegraph back then.
19 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: He started -- he
20 started this before there was 800 megahertz.
21 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: That's
22 right. Back then there was only --
23 GOVERNOR BUSH: Four hundred --
24 four hundred --
25 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Yeah, about
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1 400 megahertz. It's 385 we're talking about.
2 But --
3 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Two eighty-fives
4 you were --
5 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: We had a
6 hard time -- we had a real hard time getting a
7 budget passed. It was only going to -- going
8 to be a twenty million dollar project.
9 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: How much we got in
10 it so far?
11 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: It's going
12 to be 500 billion by the time --
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1 GOVERNOR BUSH: Department of Revenue.
2 Item 1. Is there a --
3 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Move the minutes.
4 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Second.
5 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor.
6 THE CABINET: Aye.
7 MR. FUCHS: Item 2 is a request for
8 approval in concept of an additional
9 legislative proposal for the estate tax area.
10 What we're trying to do here is eliminate
11 nonvalue-added activity by the Department of
12 Revenue that slows down the work of tax
13 practitioners and ordinary citizens in trying
14 to clear non-taxable estates in the state of
15 Florida.
16 For years, apparently back through the
17 '50s, we've been issuing certificates to such
18 people. And in a great burst of insight, our
19 employees realized that there's really no value
20 in that, and we send the certificate out simply
21 on the affirmation by the parties that there's
22 no money due.
23 So what we're asking for is legislative
24 authority to eliminate the certificate, and
25 just let the parties affirm the non-taxable
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1 status directly to the Clerk of the Court.
2 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Move Item 2.
3 GOVERNOR BUSH: Second?
4 COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN: Second.
5 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor.
6 THE CABINET: Aye.
7 MR. FUCHS: Item 3 is a request for us to
8 reduce our budget request before the -- before
9 the Legislature. The percentage is -- is
10 rather small because the majority of the
11 current budget increase is -- is mandated
12 increases by the last Legislature.
13 There are a few position reductions, and a
14 relatively small amount of money. There is one
15 slight increase contained in this request,
16 however. We are asking for a fund shift to
17 assure that the child support enforcement
18 program has sufficient dollars to carry out
19 its -- its program. These -- this is not an
20 increase in funding, it's an increase in the
21 request for the fund shift.
22 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Motion.
23 GOVERNOR BUSH: Is there a second?
24 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Second.
25 SECRETARY HARRIS: Yes, I have a question.
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1 GOVERNOR BUSH: Okay. Can we get the --
2 SECRETARY HARRIS: -- motion out of the
3 way, sure.
4 GOVERNOR BUSH: -- get the motion out of
5 the way first?
6 All in favor.
7 THE CABINET: Aye.
8 SECRETARY HARRIS: I wanted to ask, while
9 we're inquir-- while we're going through some
10 of this, we've had a lot of discussions about
11 child enforcement and some of these things.
12 According to the -- your letter, there were
13 190,000 backlogged public -- cases of public
14 assistance cases, and now there are about a
15 hundred and six.
16 What is the current situation? We're about
17 halfway through this fiscal year. Where do we
18 stand now?
19 MR. FUCHS: Well, thank you for the
20 question, Madam Secretary.
21 The situation's been complicated somewhat
22 with the withdrawal of the two private sector
23 companies that we had hired to handle 190,000
24 of those backlogged cases.
25 There was an erroneous newspaper article.
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1 The Associated Press sent out a retraction on
2 the 15th of the month. It was printed in two
3 newspapers in very, very small type on the
4 16th, and the -- I think about the 19th.
5 The point there is that the two companies
6 found, as we have found, that it's extremely
7 difficult to collect money from public
8 assistance cases, particularly those that have
9 been backlogged for a number of years, and they
10 have withdrawn.
11 So those -- the remaining roughly 110,000
12 cases have come back to the Department of
13 Revenue.
14 Further complicating that is a reduction in
15 the Federal funding. Child support is paid for
16 by the Federal government with a two for one
17 match, $1 State money is -- is matched with $2
18 of Federal money, and that has been slowing
19 down.
20 So we currently have -- or I have currently
21 had -- have done on our initiative, frozen
22 20 million dollars in the current budget for
23 this fiscal year, and are -- I'm holding
24 207 positions vacant so that we have sufficient
25 funds to get through the year without a budget
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1 shortfall.
2 This is not an overspending. This is
3 reduction in the revenue that's coming into the
4 agency.
5 Despite that, collections are up
6 approximately 12 percent for the first
7 six months of this fiscal year, and they've
8 been up 50 percent for the past four years.
9 So we're doing a better job, and we're
10 doing it more efficiently. But it would
11 certainly help us if we were to get at least
12 the amount of money authorized by the
13 Legislature.
14 And, Governor, your -- your staff, even
15 though they're very new, have been reviewing
16 this favorably. And we hope that we'll be able
17 to -- either through improved efficiency or the
18 next -- the next budget, at least restore
19 existing levels of -- of resources.
20 GOVERNOR BUSH: Isn't it true that our
21 success on the one hand of lessening the
22 welfare rolls, the number of people that are
23 receiving public assistance, has actually
24 created part of the problem, that the
25 reimbursement rate for people who aren't on
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1 welfare is significantly lower than -- in terms
2 of the -- the reimbursement from the Federal
3 government.
4 So it's a typical Washington situation
5 where the more successful you are, the more
6 punished you are for -- for being -- for doing
7 good work.
8 MR. FUCHS: That's exactly true.
9 GOVERNOR BUSH: A political twist.
10 That's -- isn't that kind of what --
11 MR. FUCHS: That's the -- that's the true
12 story. When -- when we got this program
13 four years ago, a little bit better than
14 50 percent of the cases were public assistance
15 or welfare cases.
16 Now it's down to a third. But the overall
17 number of cases has remained the same. So
18 those people have simply switched from -- from
19 welfare recipients to nonwelfare recipients,
20 they're still getting our services. But the
21 Federal reimbursement is based primarily on the
22 welfare recipient cases.
23 So -- so we're losing Federal money because
24 the whole system is operating more efficiently.
25 What they say, and what they've said to our
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1 legislative committees, is that you have -- had
2 a corresponding increase in funding on the --
3 on the sort of Department of Children and
4 Family side. You haven't had to spend as much
5 money on your welfare cases, just shift it.
6 That's easier said than done.
7 SECRETARY HARRIS: Governor --
8 GOVERNOR BUSH: Yes.
9 SECRETARY HARRIS: -- I have one other
10 question.
11 In your Legislative Budget Request, there
12 was a $60,000 request for a client satisfaction
13 study. And based on how we're looking at the
14 Federal funding, and then some of the issues
15 that were -- were brought up in the newspaper
16 articles, is it premature to send out that
17 study, is that an OPPAGA requirement; and why
18 exactly would we be doing a customer
19 satisfaction study to the tune of 60,000 now?
20 MR. FUCHS: It was a -- a legislative
21 mandate. There was a feeling, I believe,
22 primarily in the Senate Judiciary Committee
23 that we weren't doing a good enough job of --
24 of measuring the satisfaction of the clients.
25 I believe anecdotally, legislators tell me
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1 that they get more complaints on child support
2 enforcement than -- than any other activity
3 in -- in State government.
4 It kind of stands to reason. This is a
5 highly emotional issue, it gets wrapped up in
6 visitation, custody, animosity between former
7 spouses, et cetera. And -- and the program is
8 often used as a -- as a cudgel between unhappy
9 people. And that leads to a lot of the
10 complaints.
11 Be that as it may, they felt that there
12 ought to be some formal measurement of -- of
13 what that level of satisfaction is. And we
14 have reduced our request because of the timing
15 of the study, but we are attempting to -- to do
16 what was mandated.
17 SECRETARY HARRIS: Thank you.
18 GOVERNOR BUSH: Thank you.
19 MR. FUCHS: Thank you very much.
20 And thank you certainly for your earlier
21 vote. I look forward to continuing a lifetime
22 of -- certainly a lifetime of public service.
23 You have blessed me with two of the most
24 unpopular subjects in -- in State government
25 these days: Taxation, and child support
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1 enforcement.
2 But I will tell you on behalf of the
3 5500 employees of the Department of Revenue, I
4 don't think they could be more dedicated and be
5 trying harder to do the job that's necessary
6 for the people of Florida. And it's my
7 pleasure to continue to lead them, and I
8 thank you for that opportunity.
9 GOVERNOR BUSH: Thank you, Larry.
10 (The Department of Revenue Agenda was
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1 GOVERNOR BUSH: Board of Education.
2 Commissioner Gallagher.
3 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Oh, thank you.
4 We'd like to, first of all, if we could,
5 move the minutes from the past meetings, which
6 are --
7 MR. PIERSON: -- November 10th --
8 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: -- the 10th --
9 MR. PIERSON: -- November 24th,
10 December 8th.
11 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Right.
12 So I'll move those.
13 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Second.
14 MR. PIERSON: Item 2 is proposed high
15 priority school locations for use in the
16 teacher loan forgiveness program.
17 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Motion.
18 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Second.
19 GOVERNOR BUSH: That's it?
20 MR. PIERSON: Thank you.
21 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: That's it.
22 This is an easy day.
23 GOVERNOR BUSH: They always like this,
24 Commissioner?
25 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Unfortunately, my
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1 history reminds me that sometimes education can
2 get long and boring. But we're going to try
3 not to have that happen, Governor.
4 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Well,
5 Governor, what happened last time, the -- the
6 former Commissioner used to ask -- we used to
7 ask questions. But after the first couple of
8 meetings we asked a question, it usually took
9 about an hour-and-a-half for the answer, which
10 I'm sure you found on the campaign trail of the
11 Lieutenant Governor.
12 GOVERNOR BUSH: I've -- in fact, I've --
13 Lieutenant Governor Brogan told me to pass on
14 to his former memb-- colleagues on the Cabinet
15 that should anybody act out the wrong way, that
16 he's going to come back and answer a question.
17 So --
18 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: I have taken a
19 month of lessons from him on how to do it, if
20 necessary.
21 (The State Board of Education Agenda was
22 concluded.)
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ADMINISTRATION COMMISSION 44
January 26, 1999
1 GOVERNOR BUSH: Administration Commission.
2 Donna Arduin.
3 Welcome.
4 MS. ARDUIN: Thank you.
5 The first item, I recommend approval of the
6 minutes for the meeting held December 8th,
7 1999.
8 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Motion on the
9 minutes.
10 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Second.
11 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor.
12 THE CABINET: Aye.
13 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Governor,
14 could we have those minutes explained to us by
15 the --
16 GOVERNOR BUSH: No.
17 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: --
18 Secretary?
19 MS. ARDUIN: Thank you, Governor.
20 GOVERNOR BUSH: You can't. She wasn't here
21 December 8th.
22 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: I'm sure she's
23 read them though.
24 MS. ARDUIN: Item 2, I recommend approval
25 of an Information Resource Management Project
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1 for the Department of Children and Families.
2 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Motion.
3 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Second.
4 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Second.
5 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor.
6 THE CABINET: Aye.
7 MS. ARDUIN: Item 3, recommend approval to
8 establish two positions in excess of the number
9 fixed by the Legislature for the Florida Game
10 and Fresh Water Fish Commission.
11 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Motion.
12 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Motion.
13 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Second.
14 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor.
15 THE CABINET: Aye.
16 MS. ARDUIN: Item 4, I recommend approval
17 of the transfer of general revenue
18 appropriations for the Department of
19 Juvenile Justice.
20 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Motion.
21 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Second.
22 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor.
23 THE CABINET: Aye.
24 MS. ARDUIN: Item 5, I recommend approval
25 of the transfer of general revenue
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1 appropriations for the Department of
2 Corrections.
3 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Motion.
4 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Second.
5 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor.
6 THE CABINET: Aye.
7 GOVERNOR BUSH: This is a serious issue, by
8 the way, that we're going to have to deal with
9 on a longer term basis.
10 MS. ARDUIN: Item 6, I recommend approval
11 of the transfer of general revenue
12 appropriations for the Florida Department of
13 Law Enforcement.
14 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Motion.
15 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Second.
16 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Second.
17 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor.
18 THE CABINET: Aye.
19 MS. ARDUIN: Item 7, I recommend approval
20 of the transfer of general revenue
21 appropriations, the Department of Military
22 Affairs.
23 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Motion.
24 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Second.
25 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor.
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1 THE CABINET: Aye.
2 MS. ARDUIN: Item 8, I recommend approval
3 of an Information Resource Management Project,
4 the Department of Labor and Employment
5 Security.
6 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Motion.
7 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Second.
8 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor.
9 THE CABINET: Aye.
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MARINE FISHERIES COMMISSION 48
January 26, 1999
1 GOVERNOR BUSH: Marine Fisheries
2 Commission.
3 DR. NELSON: Good morning, Governor,
4 members of the Cabinet.
5 Item A on our agenda this morning is an
6 emergency suspension of the shrimp minimum size
7 rule in Biscayne Bay.
8 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Motion.
9 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Second.
10 GOVERNOR BUSH: Is there any discussion?
11 I know there's some people here -- how do
12 we do this? Help me out here, General.
13 DR. NELSON: Mr. Fondoran, did you want to
14 come up? We have -- Mr. George Fondoran is
15 here from Miami. He supports the rule.
16 Okay. Did you want to come up, George,
17 or --
18 MR. FONDORAN: Not really.
19 GOVERNOR BUSH: Okay.
20 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Sometimes if you
21 talk too much, you know, you might talk us out
22 of it. So ride with it while you got it. I've
23 seen it happen.
24 GOVERNOR BUSH: Is there any discussion?
25 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: I think
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1 somebody else wants to come up.
2 GOVERNOR BUSH: Okay.
3 MR. MARTINEZ: Good morning, Governor. I'm
4 here on behalf of the Spanish American League
5 Against Discrimination, and also representing
6 the shrimp fishermen.
7 GOVERNOR BUSH: What's your name?
8 MR. MARTINEZ: Pardon?
9 GOVERNOR BUSH: Can you say your name?
10 MR. MARTINEZ: Xavier Martinez from
11 Podhurst, Orseck, Josefsberg in Miami.
12 GOVERNOR BUSH: Welcome, Xavier.
13 MR. MARTINEZ: Thank you.
14 I don't have much to add. I don't think
15 this is a very controversial measure. The
16 Fisheries Commission has unanimously
17 recommended that this be passed.
18 We believe there's selective enforcement of
19 this rule in Dade County, and this rule, for
20 the most part has been abrogated throughout the
21 state. It just doesn't apply in the northeast,
22 and several different regions of the state
23 already. It's been enforced exclusively in
24 Dade County, to our knowledge. And we -- we
25 have concerns of selective enforcement.
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1 So I think this measure is well reasoned,
2 it is basically a cooling off period for the
3 Fisheries Commission to study the issue, and
4 determine whether enforcement of this rule is
5 necessary in light of the fact that it deprives
6 about 500 families in Dade County of the right
7 to make a living.
8 Thank you.
9 GOVERNOR BUSH: Thank you, Xavier.
10 Any comments?
11 All in favor of the motion.
12 THE CABINET: Aye.
13 All opposed.
14 DR. NELSON: Even Item B on the agenda
15 would be an emergency northwest -- southwest
16 Florida seasonal shrimp closure.
17 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Motion on B.
18 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Second.
19 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Second.
20 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor?
21 THE CABINET: Aye.
22 DR. NELSON: Item C on the agenda is the
23 First Florida Calico Scallop Management Plan.
24 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Motion on C.
25 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Second.
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1 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Second.
2 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor.
3 THE CABINET: Aye.
4 DR. NELSON: Item D is an amendment to our
5 current trawl gear specifications to -- to
6 coincide with some of the allowances in the
7 Calico Scallop Plan.
8 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Motion on D.
9 GOVERNOR BUSH: Item C you're doing?
10 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: D this is.
11 GOVERNOR BUSH: D you said?
12 DR. NELSON: D. Yes. D is a -- is an
13 amendment which is necessary to implement C
14 that you passed.
15 GOVERNOR BUSH: Okay.
16 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Second.
17 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor.
18 THE CABINET: Aye.
19 DR. NELSON: And then, finally, Item D is a
20 minimum size limit on gag and black grouper.
21 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: I think you're on
22 E now.
23 DR. NELSON: I'm sorry, sir. Item E is a
24 minimum size limit on gag and black grouper in
25 Monroe County.
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1 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Motion on E.
2 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Second.
3 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor.
4 THE CABINET: Aye.
5 DR. NELSON: Thank you.
6 GOVERNOR BUSH: Thank you.
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1 GOVERNOR BUSH: Board of Trustees --
2 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Motion on the
3 minutes.
4 GOVERNOR BUSH: -- Internal Improvement
5 Trust Fund.
6 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Motion on minutes.
7 MR. GREEN: Item 1, minutes.
8 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor.
9 THE CABINET: Aye.
10 MR. GREEN: Substitute Item 2, two option
11 agreements to acquire 1.6 acres within the
12 Florida Keys Ecosystem CARL Project.
13 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Motion on 2.
14 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Second.
15 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor.
16 THE CABINET: Aye.
17 MR. GREEN: Item 3, option agreement to
18 acquire 35.96 acres within the Ocala-Wekiva
19 Greenway CARL Project.
20 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Motion on 3.
21 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Second.
22 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor.
23 THE CABINET: Aye.
24 MR. GREEN: Item 4, six option agreements
25 to acquire 361.5 acres within the
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1 Charlotte Harbor Flatwood CARL Project.
2 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Motion.
3 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Motion.
4 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Second.
5 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor.
6 THE CABINET: Aye.
7 GOVERNOR BUSH: Onward.
8 MR. GREEN: Substitute Item 5, I recommend
9 withdrawal.
10 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Motion to defer.
11 MR. GREEN: Withdrawal, sir.
12 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: You wanted --
13 COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN: Move withdrawal.
14 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor.
15 THE CABINET: Aye.
16 MR. GREEN: Item 6, an option agreement to
17 acquire 304.96 acres within the St. Marks
18 National Wildlife Refuge.
19 GOVERNOR BUSH: Is there a motion?
20 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Motion.
21 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Second.
22 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor.
23 THE CABINET: Aye.
24 MR. GREEN: Item 7, authorization to
25 acquire 100 percent interest in the 150 acres
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1 within the Corkscrew Regional Ecosystem
2 Watershed CARL Project.
3 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Motion on 7.
4 GOVERNOR BUSH: A second.
5 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Second.
6 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Second.
7 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor.
8 THE CABINET: Aye.
9 MR. GREEN: Item 8, three option agreements
10 in -- three purchase agreements and one option
11 agreement to acquire 25.042 acres in the
12 Coupon Bight, and waiver of survey.
13 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Motion on 8.
14 GOVERNOR BUSH: Is there a second?
15 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Second.
16 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor.
17 THE CABINET: Aye.
18 MR. GREEN: Item 9, purchase agreement to
19 acquire 0.67 acres for the benefit of the Board
20 of Regents and Florida A&M.
21 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Motion on --
22 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Second.
23 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor.
24 THE CABINET: Aye.
25 COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN: Governor, I would
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1 just ask people to note the appraisal value on
2 this piece of property for future reference.
3 MR. GREEN: Item 10, purchase agreement to
4 acquire 199.5 acres by the Department of
5 Agriculture, Consumer Services.
6 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Motion on 10.
7 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Second.
8 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor.
9 THE CABINET: Aye.
10 MR. GREEN: Item 11, delegation of
11 authority to the Secretary of DEP to purchase
12 approved purchases within the Interlachen Lakes
13 Estate platted subdivision, and waiver of
14 surveys.
15 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Motion on 11.
16 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Second.
17 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor.
18 THE CABINET: Aye.
19 MR. GREEN: Substitute Item 12, recommend
20 deferral.
21 COMPTROLLER MILLIGAN: Move deferral.
22 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor.
23 THE CABINET: Aye.
24 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: I have one
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1 GOVERNOR BUSH: Yes.
2 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: -- if I can.
3 Kirby, I understand that -- that
4 Seminole County's requested a declaratory
5 statement as to whether the lands and waters
6 known as Clifton Springs as sovereign submerged
7 lands.
8 I believe our offices can work together on
9 that in order to advise them on that?
10 MR. GREEN: That's correct.
11 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Okay.
12 MR. GREEN: The deferral is to see if the
13 County will withdraw their request for
14 petition.
15 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Okay.
16 MR. GREEN: Substitute Item 13 --
17 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Move defer.
18 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: Second.
19 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor.
20 THE CABINET: Aye.
21 MR. GREEN: Substitute Item 14, an
22 application for renewal and modification of a
23 five-year sovereignty submerged land lease,
24 change the lease to a five-year special event
25 sovereignty submerged land lease, and create --
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1 increase the preempted area from 45,000 acres
2 to eighty-- excuse me -- 45,000 square feet to
3 87,000 square feet.
4 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Take over the
5 whole thing.
6 GOVERNOR BUSH: Is there a motion?
7 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Motion. Move it.
8 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Somebody wanted to
9 speak.
10 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor.
11 THE CABINET: Aye.
12 GOVERNOR BUSH: Kirby, is this -- is -- you
13 said five-year?
14 MR. GREEN: Yes.
15 GOVERNOR BUSH: I assume that it -- if --
16 if there's a -- always a boat show, right? I
17 mean, I haven't read the lease, but this is --
18 MR. GREEN: Correct. It's predicated on
19 them having a boat show at --
20 GOVERNOR BUSH: On that particular time of
21 the year, and all that?
22 MR. GREEN: That's correct. It's also
23 predicated on them meeting certain conditions
24 within the lease document for renewal of that
25 on each -- each year period.
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1 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: The applicant
2 wanted a ten-year lease?
3 MR. GREEN: They talked early on about it,
4 but the -- the rule that we just passed a
5 couple of meetings ago limits it to a five-year
6 lease.
7 GOVERNOR BUSH: Makes sense.
8 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Move withdrawal,
9 Item 15.
10 MR. GREEN: Substitute Item 15, withdrawal.
11 COMMISSIONER GALLAGHER: Move withdrawal.
12 GOVERNOR BUSH: Is there a second?
13 COMMISSIONER CRAWFORD: Second.
14 GOVERNOR BUSH: All in favor.
15 THE CABINET: Aye.
16 MR. GREEN: Governor, for clarification on
17 Substitute Item 13, the deferral is until the
18 February 23rd meeting instead of the next
19 meeting.
20 GOVERNOR BUSH: Okay.
21 MR. GREEN: That concludes the agenda.
22 GOVERNOR BUSH: That's it?
23 ATTORNEY GENERAL BUTTERWORTH: That's it.
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6 COUNTY OF LEON:
7 I, LAURIE L. GILBERT, do hereby certify that
8 the foregoing proceedings were taken before me at the
9 time and place therein designated; that my shorthand
10 notes were thereafter translated; and the foregoing
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13 I FURTHER CERTIFY that I am not a relative,
14 employee, attorney or counsel of any of the parties,
15 nor relative or employee of such attorney or counsel,
16 or financially interested in the foregoing action.
17 DATED THIS 6TH day of FEBRUARY, 1999.
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